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Ibn Warraq Interview

Written by Stephen Rhodes on July 12, 2010 - Comments No Comments

An interesting discussion of Islam as it hasn’t been heard before. In part 1 of this interview, Warraq discusses how post-colonial Western liberal guilt and self-loathing combined with an Arab adolescent mindset, completely devoid of responsibility or self-criticism, has prevented any honest discussion of Islam. In part 2, Warraq discusses how Saudi Arabia and its 250 billion dollars in grants and donations is controlling how Islam is taught and stifling Koranic research in top Ivy League schools and other prestigious universities in America.

You’re probably wondering, “Who in the heck is Abn Warraq?” For those who are not familiar, Ibn Warraq is an independent researcher based at a humanist think tank in the US. He is Vice President of World Encounter Institute, author of Why I am Not a Muslim, 1995, and editor of anthologies of Koranic criticism The Origins of the Koran, 1998, What the Koran Really Says, 2002, and Which Koran?, 2007—all Prometheus Books. He also edited an anthology of testimonies of ex-Muslims, Leaving Islam, 2003, Defending the West, A Critique of Edward Said’s Orientalism, 2007 and Virgins What Virgins?: And Other Essays, 2010. His op-ed pieces have appeared in the Wall Street Journal in America and The Guardian in London, and he has addressed distinguished governing bodies round the world, including the United Nations in Geneva on the subject of apostasy.

Jim sent this in:

President Barack Obama believes his office should generate, what he considers, positive messages to the international community.

For example, one reason his Justice Department will try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four other Islamic terrorists in New York City is to show the international community that the US believes in providing even the most vicious individuals a fair trial, even if they did kill 3,000 people.

However, Attorney General Eric Holder’s move to transfer jurisdiction from the military to the civil criminal justice system sends another message: military courts are good enough for America’s protectors, but they’re not good enough for mass-murdering terrorists.

President Obama has always shown a soft spot in his heart for the Islamic religion. During his presidential campaign, then-Senator Barack Obama told a Christian Broadcasting Network correspondent something that should have alerted every one of the tens of millions of Christians in the United States.

Obama told CBN’s David Brody: “I think that the [political] right might worry a bit more about the dangers of sectarianism. Whatever we once were, we’re no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.”

If that tidbit of information wasn’t enough to question Obama’s vision for America, he previously said in a 2007 speech that “whatever we once were, we’re no longer a Christian nation.”

It’s safe to assume that Obama included Jews out of a desire to drive a wedge between them and conservative Christians. However, only a fool would buy his rhetoric since the President has shown he’s no friend to Israel, while conservative Christians have supported the Jewish state — in both word and deed — against its enemies.

Then he uttered his zinger: “Somehow, somewhere along the way, faith stopped being used to bring us together and started being used to drive us apart. It got hijacked. Part of it’s because of the so-called leaders of the Christian Right, who’ve been all too eager to exploit what divides us.”

While Obama professes to be a Christian, Americans learned his pastor and religious mentor was an America-bashing racist who found a “trusted friend” in the Nation of Islam’s Louis Farrakhan, a man known for his unbridled bigotry against Jews and white Christians. Of course, being the political animal he is, Obama eventually distanced himself from his pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

According to a news story in World Net Daily, Obama’s comment about the “Christian Right” was mild compared to statements made by his national campaign co-manager, Merrill A. McPeak.

McPeak seemed to compare evangelical Christians to the terror groups Hamas and Hezbollah. He told the newspaper The Oregonian that Hamas and Hezbollah were similar to Oregonian Christians whom he labeled radicals.

Once safely entrenched in the Oval Office, President Obama decided to show his true stance on Christianity. He did away with the annual National Day of Prayer on which the White House traditionally hosted a service in its East Room. When a reporter asked Obama’s press secretary Robert Gibbs about Obama’s decision, Gibbs replied, “Prayer is something that the president does everyday.”  Then Gibbs promised that Obama would sign a proclamation to recognize the day, as many administrations in the past have done.

While President George W. Bush marked the National Day of Prayer with a service at the White House for each of the eight years he served, this year, President Obama decided against holding a public ceremony.

However, in the midst of a war against radical Islam and his push to takeover health care, President Obama found time to hold a White House dinner honoring the Muslim holiday of Ramadan Kareem. And the guest list did not only include Muslims. Many Washington elites attended the ceremony including some Republicans such as Senator Richard Lugar.

But there’s more. They held a national prayer gathering of Muslims on September 25 in front of the US Capitol Building. According to one source, there were at least 50,000 attendees from Mosques all across America. They said that they wanted Americans to see how they pray.

The planners of the event even set up a web site: http://islamoncapitolhill.com

It’s a shame that the Obama White House ignored the National Day of Prayer and instead issued a paper proclamation, meanwhile he had a White House Celebration for a Muslim holiday. Most Americans have no problem with the Muslim holiday but they do have a problem when it is celebrated in lieu of the National Day of Prayer. With Obama ramming Ramadan down the throats of Americans, it’s hoped Americans will finally realize that their leaders use faith as a political prop.

Annie sent this in:

SOMETHING IS HAPPENING!

Our country, lurching from crisis to crisis continues to be the foundation of freedom and culture, tolerance, and goodness that it always has been.

People are active, aware, full of caring and vigor to protect the Constitution and the essential qualities of the United States that have always made the US the great experiment in freedom and liberty of the world. Here, I will show you an example.

On the 25th of September a public all-day event of “Islamic prayer” will be held in Washington, DC. The event is scheduled to take place in front of the capitol building, according to the event’s organizers, and will begin very early in the morning and run into the evening. The organizers plan on 50,000 Muslims attending. They have a large budget some 200k according to their web site.

Prayer in a Mosque is one matter, Islamic prayer in front of the Capitol of the great kafir country of the world is quite another.

This event is a political event, not a religious event, and must therefore be opposed.

Islam is an entire civilization not only a religion. Islam’s purpose is to grow and expand so that the entire world is under Islamic control. The doctrine of Islam is clear on this point. Those who are not Muslim, the kafir (or unbeliever) are considered the lowest form of life in Islam. Allah and Mohammed hate the kafir, therefore all Muslims must hate them as well. To not follow the commands of Allah and Mohammed is apostasy (a Muslim who has left Islam); apostasy in Islam is punishable by death.

Muslims are slaves of Allah and Mohammed; Mohammed and Allah are only found in the doctrine of Islam. Mohammed and Allah hate the kafirs, the unbelievers, so all Muslims must do the same. This is clear logic.

Islam is a political ideology of conquest and control. The purpose of Islam is to ensure that Sharia law is implemented across the world. This is the only way that “dar al-Islam” (a world under Islam) is brought about. Islam is at war with unbelievers everywhere forever until dar al-Islam is achieved.

I have no interest in living under Sharia Law, nor should you; I have no desire to ever wear a burkha or niqab nor should you. If Muslims want to live under Sharia Law in their own countries, that is their affair. Sharia Law and the doctrine of Islam are contrary to the freedoms and rights that are guaranteed to us in the Constitution. I support our Constitution and therefore must oppose political Islam.

I oppose the growth of Sharia everywhere, particularly in the United States. Islam is foundationally opposed to American democracy. The conflict with Islam is existential.

This demonstration of Islamic power in the United States on the 25th at the Capitol should be opposed by all reasonable Americans, folks who love freedom, liberty, tolerance, and equal rights. Islam is a supremacist ideology.

A new organization is dedicated to educating the American people about the dangers of Islam, its purposes, ideologies, jihad, sharia, etc. In addition, this group is not afraid to step up and defend the Constitution and expose a political event of an opposing ideology for what it is when the necessity arises.

Stop Islamization of America (SIOANETWORK.COM) is associated with groups across the world with the same mission, to oppose the growth and spread of the Islamic political ideology which is determined to overthrow our freedoms, religions, and cultures.

Kendra Adams is the founder of this organization. This is a group of brave scholars of Islam, grass roots students and activists, patriotic Americans all who study the doctrine of Islam and the appalling atrocities that the adherents of the “religion of peace” do on account of that doctrine.

Will the Muslims on the 25th of September condemn jihad? Will they dedicate themselves to the security and prosperity of Americans and other non-believers? Will they proclaim their affinity for the kafir laws of the United States? They cannot do this because their doctrine prevents them from doing this. Their doctrine states quite clearly that no law, no culture, no country, no religion other than Islam can be allowed to exist anywhere in the world.

The purpose of this “prayer event” at the United States Capitol is to demonstrate their power, present a false picture of a “religion of peace”, and to advertise across the land for converts. It is Sunna (the Way of Mohammed, the path that all Muslims everywhere are to follow forever) to issue an invitation to non-believers to join Islam for “protection”. If the invitation is refused (we have already refused bin Laden’s pre-911 “invitation”) Islam is in a state of active jihad (warfare against the unbeliever for Allah) against the host country and kafir culture.

This is a call for support.

I hope you will join us on the 25th of September and rally the country around us. Those whose doctrine requires the destruction of the United States, whose jihad against us and all non-Muslims everywhere is fully documented and understood, whose adherents committed the greatest atrocity against Americans in our history, 9/11 will see that Americans understand their purposes and their motivations. We are not fooled; Islam is no “religion of peace”.

We understand takiyah (sacred deception). We know that Muslims are commanded to never befriend a Jew or a Christian, or any non-Muslim because to do so is to be one of “them” (a great sin in Islam). We know that there is an exception to this rule in the doctrine – when it aids in the growth and power of Islam such relationships are “not forbidden”.

We call for your financial support, too.  Please help us make this event a reality. We cannot do it without your financial support.

We call for your donations and your presence on the 25th of September at the city of Washington, DC, our nation’s capitol to show our fellow Americans an opposing view and that there are those who will defend our Constitution, our system of government, our culture and way of life from a political ideology of supremacism, intolerance, and misogyny that is opposed to our very existence.

Please go to Stop Islamization of America’s website, SIOANETWORK.COM. Click “Donate” at the upper right of the main page. Give whatever you can give.

I will attend this protest of Islamic power at our Capitol. I will do this because I know the doctrine of Islam, I know what Muslims do because of the doctrine and because I support my country, countrymen, and the foundational concepts that make the United States great.

I ask you to attend this Stop Islamization of America event, this educational protest to show the American people and the world that we in the United States will not turn our country and democracy over to an ideology of tyranny, barbarism, misogyny, cruelty, and Islamic supremacism.

If you cannot attend the event in Washington, please consider organizing a protest in your state’s capitol in support of the Constitution and opposing this display of Islamic political power and dawa (conversion) on the 25th of September.

More information on this upcoming event will be posted here and on the SIOA blog in the coming days.

We are not asleep here in the United States. We are not so distracted by crises real and manufactured that we will give up our freedoms and our Constitution.

I support SIOA and their mission.

Annie sent this in:

Picture for a moment that the United States of America exists on a fast-moving jet, systems in place, the passenger seats can be thought of as individual states, each full of tax-paying citizens, children, families, the elderly, our military. Our testicular-challenged Congress is hovering over the cockpit, staring at our looney faux leader with awe…yet no one is flying the plane. (Congress cannot do it, their spines disintegrated ages ago, like a crusty old gym sock that lays around, no apparent use, stinking up the environment, in desperate need of replacement) No, the plane is operated from the checkbook of a foriegn born man who is forbidden in some countries, unwelcome in others and likely feared but hardly respected. How does one respect the idiotic?

America is heading straight for a mountain while the masses sleep, too wrapped up in our daily grind to pay any attention to other nations and individuals begging us to take stock in our decisions and give the big picture a second glance prior to putting another foot forward.

In yesterday’s Townhall, an article appeared outlining the ‘20 most effective ways for Islamists to invade America’ and I had to laugh at the clever mechanisms utilized by Muslims to most efficiently penetrate our system, nearly undetected. To paraphrase:

1. Terminate America’s freedom of speech by replacing it with hate crime bills state-wide and nation-wide. (They did this but threw us a freebie, with pedophile protection stuffed into this bill by the wormiest looking politician to ever crawl out of Nevada…anyone else think he looks like a constipated rat?)

2. Engage a new ‘war’ between blacks and whites, but a war of words, pitting black leaders aggainst visible religious personalities to promote Islam as the ‘correct and proper’ African-American religion while claiming that Judeo-Christian based theology is for white people, a notion based in utter folly.

3. Launch public debate/PR campaigns on college campuses, universities libraries, radio stations, television stations, churches, mosques and any other setting where an opportunity may arise, as to the virtues of Islam, comparing it as historically ‘relevant’ much like Judaism or Christianity.

4. Recruit Muslim sympathizers to run for office in order to manipulate legislation and to recruit additional volunteers to manage block voting. (Suddenly, i’m hungry for Acorn pie?)

5. Buy stock in corporations, buy real estate, companies, and/or take control of shares in American based companies, especially throughout Hollywood/Southern California, the press, radio, internet and television.

(Remember after 9/11, Saudi Prince Al-Waleed had offered $10 million dollars to then-New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani for relief efforts. Unfortunately, Al-Waleed also released a statement placing the blame for the attacks on our crummy US foreign policy and ’support for Israel‘ for the horrific attacks that fateful day in 2001. Giuliani told him exactly where he could ’stuff’ his check and in retaliation, bin Talal purchased a sizeable chunk of the Fox Corporation)

6. Control America with oil, as our economy cannot survive without it and a large percentage comes from the middle east.

7. Yell ‘hate crime’ or ‘racist’ whenever the Quran is analyzed accurately in the public arena.

8. Recruit Muslims to apply for high level jobs within the White House/Administration. Once there, ‘paint’ a ‘peaceful’ picture of Islam. Penetrate local community school boards. Train Muslims as doctors, lawyers and other important professionals, encouraging them to fully integrate into their chosen system, living ‘peaceful’ lives. (naturally, they’re supporting their mosques though, so this is hardly living a ‘peaceful’ life as funding is often tied to radical activity).

9. Massive population efforts, although this has decreased a bit in recent years.

10. Reading, writing, arithmetic and research through the American educational system, mosques and student centers (now at least 1500) should be ‘trained’ to teach/coerce others regarding Islam’s position on Jews, evangelical Christians and democracy. There are more than 300 exclusively Muslim schools with loyalty to the Quran, or Islamic law. (note: Islam does NOT recognize the U.S. Constitution)

11 Educate society through carefully prepared propaganda, speeches, seminars, local and national media that terrorists have hijacked Islam, that it’s NOT the true Islam. Furthermore in January of 2002, Saudi Arabia’s Embassy in Washington mailed 4500 packets of the Quran, videos, promoting Islam to America’s high schools–all for free. They would never allow reciprocation.

12.. Write large (muslim) grants to colleges and universities throughout the US to firmly root their message through the development of “Centers for Islamic Studies” with Muslim directors to promote Islam in higher education institutions.

13. Eliminate all sense of security by manipulating our intelligence system by feeding it misinformation, reports of false attacks (in itself these are acts of terror).

14.. Appeal to liberals for sympathy and tolerance towards the Muslims in America who are portrayed as mainly immigrants from oppressed countries.

15. Form riots and demonstrations in the prison system demanding Islamic Shariah as the way of life, not American’s justice system. Also heavy recruiting efforts are done within the prison systems.

16. Open hundreds (or thousands) of Charities throughout the US and fund them but re-route the funding to aid in supporting Islamic terror.

17. Raise interest in Islam on America’s campuses by insisting that freshman take at least one course on Islam. Ensure that the translator is American and manages to cover up all violence in the Quran with the focal points remaining on its’ peaceful attributes.

18. Unify the numerous Muslim lobbies in Washington, mosques, Islamic student centers, educational organizations, magazines and papers by internet and an annual convention to coordinate plans, propagate the faith and engender news in the media of their visibility. (Funny enough, when Americans congregate to discuss this subject, efforts are launched to try and shut it down).

19. Intimidate and threaten those who speak the truth.

20. Proudly tout the voting records of Muslims as the most ‘involved’ of all ethnic groups.

In preparing this list, I remembered an article in the newspaper a few days ago that Kuwait’s largest shariah-compliant bank had just invested $450 million dollars in a transaction to develop properties in Colorado. Curious about the details, it didn’t take long to discover that this same company had just purchased a piece of Porsche and Volkswagon. Nervous about what they meant by ‘Shariah compliant’ I poked around a bit more, soon learning that the CFO of the American entity either didn’t do his due diligence or clearly doesn’t understand what signing a contract ensuring that his client will keep the properties ‘in line with Shariah law and Muslim customs’ means.

The specifics of the restrictions, according to them, are limited to not serving pork on the grounds of any of the 160 upcoming tenants, (including restaurants and movie theatres) and refraining from showing any filmed material not approved or deemed appropriate under Shariah law. Gulf nations and their wealthy funds have been adopting stricter approaches to investments now that there are so many fluctuations within the oil markets. As part of this transaction, Qatar announced that it would indeed purchase 10 % of the german company Porsche and 17 % of Volkswagon’s ordinary shares. The total investment is approximately $10 billion completed with an expected annual rate of return between 12-14 %. At this time, the company also owns 50,000 apartment homes throughout the US and thousands of homes currently undergoing renovation.

This subtle move into the arena of ‘accepting’ shariah law onto our soil for the purpose of doing ‘business’ is dangerous and stupid. We need to cut all ties to these countries, muslim and non-muslim, that have ANY dealings with al Qaeda, harbor terrorists, make apologies, concessions or engage in the maltreatment of non-Muslims (kafirs).

In addition, all monetary grants or opportunities afforded to Muslims must be offered to non-Muslims (kafirs) as well. America needs to send the message that the US will NOT tolerate manipulation of our policies on any level, either here or overseas. If we closed our borders, cut off all ties to these countries and drilled for fuel on our own soil, they’d be forced to take another look at their ‘religion of peace’.

We should pray it’s not too late. The mountain is getting closer.

As most of you already know, the United Nations – in their infinite wisdom (or lack thereof, in this case) – allowed that crackpot Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad earlier today to address a U.N. conference, so he could once again disrespect the nation of Israel.  And the United States, along with several other countries, walked out of the meeting where Ahmadinejad was speaking.  Interestingly enough, some fringe groups thought that the U.S. screwed up by leaving the address by the Iranian president. 

Human Rights Watch and the U.S. African Chamber of Commerce were among several of the fringe groups that said that by the U.S. and other countries not attending the address was a mistake and that the summit was a legitimate avenue for addressing racism globally.  Let’s start with Human Rights Watch.

According to them, they suggested that boycotting the meeting only helped destabilize it, with the group adding:

“The sad truth is that countries professing to want to avoid a reprise of the contentious 2001 racism conference are now the ones triggering the collapse of a global consensus on the fight against racism.”

Meanwhile, Martin Muhammad, head of the U.S. African Chamber of Commerce, said that the U.S. and other nations should’ve attended because of – get this – their large and diverse minority populations.  To illustrate how clueless he is, he said that although there is legitimate concern about anti-Israel rhetoric, there is also “legitimate concern” among the Muslims about criticism of Islam.

Then there’s the Congressional Black Caucus; this weekend, they posted a statement on its website opposing the boycott, adding,

“This decision is inconsistent with the administration’s policy of engaging with those we agree with and those we disagree with, expressed by President Obama during the G20 and on other recent occasions. This is a missed opportunity, plain and simple,” the statement said. “Instead, the administration opted to boycott the conference, a decision that does not advance the cause of combating racism and intolerance, but rather sets the cause back.”

See, that’s the problem with these groups.  If they actually paid any attention, then they should have known that the U.N. was going to allow Ahmadinejad to speak.  And as everyone knows, he wants Israel blown off the face of the earth.  These fringe groups just do not get it.  This summit is not about them, it is about world racism.  Furthermore, what in the hell is the U.S. Black Chamber of Commerce doing putting their two cents in on a subject they obviously know nothing about?

Once again folks, more fringe groups putting their noses into things they have no business belonging to.